MOVE A MOUNTAIN?
WE'RE STILL WAITING!
Jesus said to
move mountains "with faith as small as a mustard seed..." (1), yet the mountains
remain unmoved. Jesus said, "ask, and you shall receive..." (2), yet prayers
remain unanswered. Jesus said, "sell your possessions and give to charity..."
(3), but judging from what the "faithful" drive, Christians have yet
to take that one seriously.
Common sense. Common sense is what Christians use to filter out these "wild &
crazy" statements of Jesus. Sure, Christians "believe" them,
as long as those statements are safely tucked out of harm's way, in a Francis
Schaeffer upper-story type of "belief" (4). But you'll not find any Christians,
with faith "even as small as a mustard seed," preceding road construction crews
through the Rockies! Why? Common sense!
find this... inconsistent, yet encouraging. I am sure that to an "omnipotent"
Biblegod, it is no harder to move a mountain than it is to, say, raise a dead
body. Yet the same Christians that spend volumes of hot air defending
resurrections of their dead savior gods, will spend twice
that amount trying to hold onto their cars, or weasel out of moving mountains!
Christians- you don't believe (or practice) that mountain crap any more than we
Atheists do. It's just that we don't halt our unbelief at claims of moving
mountains. We Freethinkers have taken the words of Jesus, "if it offends you,
cut it off..." (5) to include even bibles that offend our common sense! We cut
off the whole offensive book-- you, bits and pieces; but we are both working
from the same foundation: common sense. We both use common sense to filter out
what seems to be the crazy parts to us.
encourage you to continue this freedom of thought. The reasoning upon which you
have rejected moving mountains, continue that thought process to all
the goofy crap contained in your bible, including resurrections. Think! Free
your mind! If Biblegod can't even move a little molehill here and now --and he
can't-- how the hell could he have been moving dead bodies way back when?????
mountain --right here, right now-- that would do more to silence us Skeptics
than all the debates in the world! You Christians, with a straight face, make a
claim that 2,000 years ago, a dead Jesus came back to life. But the only "proof"
you Christians offer to back up this Christian claim is a book written by
Christians for Christians! And Peter the Apostle, your chief architect of this
claim, is a self-confessed four-time liar, who even lied under oath!!!! (11).
With this for “proof” please pardon us for being a bit skeptical!
I'm sorry to
say, but you'll need more evidence than what’s written in a book (The New
Testament) to refute my common sense. For my common sense also says that
IF all the
supposed miracles in the New Testament had actually taken place,
then the largest
mass conversion in history would have also taken place. The Jewish
intellectuals, experts in the law and prophets, they would have seen the
supposed miracles and the supposed fulfillment of prophecies; they then would
have done what any rational man would have done when faced with such an
avalanche of evidence: they would have humbly converted. And the pragmatic Romans, had
they seen the hordes of dead brought back to life (6), people able to walk
across rivers and lakes (7), and wounds being instantly healed (8); the military
potential would have been enormous! No more spending months building bridges, no
more wounded or dead soldiers. Rome would have an invincible, immortal army! The
emperor himself would have beaten the door down to get to Jesus. And the
Apostle Thomas, who knew the track record of Jesus, who supposedly had seen and smelt many a stinking corpse
raised by Jesus from the dead, when presented with the claim that Jesus had now
risen from the dead, Thomas didn't believe it. (9) And Paul, AKA "Saul,"
who had lived through all the supposed miracles of Jesus, didn't convert till
years later! In other words, he wasn't impressed enough to convert until he got
knocked off his ass by a god, or so the story goes. (10)
these people believe????? Surely any of us modern Freethinkers
would have converted in a heartbeat!
IF all the supposed miracles had actually taken place, these people above must
have been the stupidest, dumbest, most ignorant morons to have ever been born.
No rational mind, when faced with such overwhelming evidence, could look it
square in the face, and act as if it never existed. They acted as if the
"miracles" NEVER EXISTED!!!!!
miracles never having existed IS the only reasonable explanation to explain the
behavior of the above people. That's common sense. The Romans never had the
reputation of being stupid. Thomas doesn't seem like a dolt from the written
accounts of him. And Paul- how many Christians want to accuse Paul of being
mentally retarded??? All these people carried on and acted just as if these
miracles had never existed, precisely because these miracles HAD never
existed!!!! These "miracles" took place only upon the pages of the fictions
known as "the gospels" as they were written half a century or more later. To
offer any other explanation of the behavior of these people flies in the face of
convenient, too, that these fictions were written more than half a century after
the supposed events. Half a century, in an era when the average lifespan was 30
years, would ensure that most of the people who could dispute the claims would
have already died off. Also in the meantime, the country of Israel had been
devastated by the biggest war in its history, culminating in the 70 AD
destruction of Jerusalem, the temple, and all the written records
contained therein. How “convenient” that the gospels weren't written until
most of the eyewitnesses of flesh and paper had been destroyed. It would be like
us writing of the prophet of the great God Ath (the god of us Atheists), whose
ministry took place in Hiroshima the week before the bomb dropped, who raised
more people from the dead than Jesus! We dare you to find any written evidence
from Hiroshima to contradict our claims. Yes, how convenient and coincidental.
Excuse us Freethinkers for not being gullible or simple-minded enough to swallow
such crap. Excuse us for having a brain and daring to use it. If thinking is a
sin, consider us sinners.
is your god able, or is your god NOT able, today, to raise the dead? If we were
to take a rotting corpse and grind it up like hamburger, would your god be able
to raise it from the dead? You have to say yes, or admit your religion is false.
Is your god able to move a mountain? How about molehill? How about even a used
cigarette butt on the sidewalk???
You say he is? So your god is able to produce better
evidence for us Freethinkers than some 2,000 year old book but he chooses
to??? You admit to this? Good! You just walked into a trap.
I want to
read to you a state law, concerning parties that claim to be able
to produce better evidence, but refuse, for whatever reason, to do
PARTY HAVING POWER TO
PRODUCE BETTER EVIDENCE:
IF WEAKER AND LESS SATISFACTORY EVIDENCE IS OFFERED WHEN IT
WAS WITHIN THE POWER OF THE PARTY TO PRODUCE STRONGER AND
MORE SATISFACTORY EVIDENCE, THE EVIDENCE OFFERED SHOULD BE VIEWED
(West's Annotated California Codes, West Pub. Co, St Paul, MN, section 412.)
either produce the better evidence you are always bragging
that your god can do, or prepare to have what meager evidence you've already
presented tossed out of the court of human reason. Don't brag of miracles
or resurrections in a book, when today in the real world your gods
can’t even pick up a feather. Right here and now- move a mountain or REmove
your faith. We "evil" Freethinkers humbly await the better evidence (per
demanded by the law) to convince us. You claim that through your
gods these things and more are possible-- common sense, and reality, and
experience, says they are not. We dare you to prove us wrong. We Freethinkers
have been waiting 2,000 years for you to move even an anthill by
prayer, and all you've moved instead is lots of HOT AIR with your yap yap
yapping about Jesus did this and Jesus did that but your Jesus
isn’t doing jack shit today, is he??? You Christians sound just like that Bruce
Springsteen song “Glory Days”, for all you got to offer the world today are
washed up burnt out gods, a bunch of used-to-be’s.
“Yeah, just sitting back trying to recapture a little of the glory of,
but time slips away and leaves you with nothing mister but
boring stories of glory days”
(Bruce Springsteen “Glory Days”)
Christians are stuck living in your "glory days" of yesteryear, never realizing
most of that stuff never even took place. If you Christians weren't so pathetic,
you'd be funny. You are just like the 850 prophets of Baal, dancing and prancing
and trying to get your gods to do something- ANYthing, except this time the role
of Elijah is filled by modern Atheists, Agnostics and Freethinkers. Get your god
off the friggin toilet and have him DO something, for Christ's sake!!!
Please, Christians, enough is enough- it’s way overdue for you guys to put up or
shut up. The best evidence
a miracle IS a miracle. That is as obvious as the nose on your
face. Less talk, more action. Come
on, move a mountain- even a cigarette butt or a feather--- we're still
2)Mt 7:7 3)Lk
12:33 4)ESCAPE FROM REASON, Francis Schaeffer, Inter-Varsity Press,
Downers Grove, Ill, 1968, pp 75-94 5)Mk 9:47
8)Lk 22:50,51 9)Jn 20:24,25 10)Acts 9:4
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