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The Bible:  Worthy of Your Trust?


Eyewitness Testimony Invalidated

     Responses to Eyewitness Testimony Invalidated

God Is Not The Author

History or HIS-STORY?

How Firm A Foundation... of Forgeries???

James the Brother of Jesus

Schizophrenia and Personal Revelations

     Responses to Schizophrenia




The God of The Bible

Biblegod Is Not Perfect

    Responses to Biblegod Not Perfect

Biblegod The Warcriminal

    Responses to Biblegod
The Warcriminal


Tyrannosaurus Pettius Rex

Jehovah Unmasked

In or Out or Neit
her


Acts of God

September 11th Biblegod Did Nothing

    Responses to September 11th




The God of The Bible:
Does He Exist?

E=MC Disproves God

    Responses to E=MC

How To Prove The Existence of God

    Responses to How To Prove The Existence of God

Shopping For A God

Transcendental La La Land




Caught in a Lie:  Contradictions Within The Bible

Don't Be Such A Cretan

The Genealogy of Jesus

Galilee vs Jerusalem

Matthew vs John

Intrinsic Contradictions

Splainin To Do

The Intercontinental Ballistic Jesus

The Sign on The Cross

     Responses to The Sign on The Cross




Sand, Not Rock:  What Christianity is Really Built Upon

The Atonement

Monotheism Not Biblical

The Ten Commandments

Christianity Has Pagan DNA

Faith

Misc. Topics & Thoughts




Jesus:  False Prophet?


False Prophet- Liar, Fraud!

 If Anybody Else But Jesus…

 Jesus and His Expired Prophecies

Matthew 24 Verse by Verse

Mt 24:34 What The Scholars Say

Significance of Jesus Being a False Prophet

Preterism

     Responses to Jesus The False Prophet




Jesus:  Resurrected?

Even If True

Evidence That Doesn't Demand a Verdict

The Roman Soldiers: "We Were There!"

     Responses to Roman Soldiers




Churchianity Examined

Connecting The Dots

The Authority Totem

Twenty Percent Fewer Errors

Fire The Clergy

     Responses to Fire The Clergy

The Wealth of Churches

Authority In Church Government

The Fleecing of The Flock

The Great Commission Does Not Apply




CAUTIONChristianity May Be Hazardous to Your Health

Victims of Religion

   Responses to Victims of Religion

Voices In Our Head

Brainwashing

   Responses to Brainwashing

We Love Our Lies




Christian Morality or Lack Thereof 

Christianity Doesn't Work as Advertised

Hypocrisy- Thy Name is Christian

Morality

The Gospel of Jesus

 Happy Father's Day

He Wasn't a REAL Christian




Evangelical Atheism

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Without A Leg To Stand On (A Message For Freethinkers)

Give To Him That Asks

   Responses to Give To Him That Asks

Just Say No

   Responses to Just Say No

Damn The Truth- Full Speed Ahead

Answering Christian Stock Arguments

Modern Miracle Workers

Atheists In America

Anti-Religious Songs

Do Unto Others

Kissing Hank's Ass

Why Beer Is Better Than Jesus

Poster: Jesus is a Liar & Lunatic

The Good News of Atheism

The Skeptic’s Prayer

What Would Jesus Do?




Christian Cults

Consumers Guide to Religion- John Cleese of Monty Python (audio file)

Geek Speak Like a Fundy

   Responses to Geek Speak 101

How To Be a Fundy

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Baptists} Once Saved, Always Saved: Always False

Catholics: Only Child or Eldest Brother

Church of Christ

   Responses to Church of Christ Essays

Dr. Robert Schuller: Racism By A Nose

Jehovah Witnesses

Nazarenes} Entire Sanctification = Entire Nonsense

   Responses to Entire Sactification

Mormons

Seventh Day Adventists




For Christians...

Message to Christian Apologists

Notes to Christians Battling Atheists

Move A Mountain

Hope

Ex-Christians Get No Respect

Abortion

Hellfire For Homosexuals and Roses




Creationism, aka Intelligent Design

The Universe According To The Bible

   Responses to The Universe

In The Beginning God Was Nuts

Intelligent Design




Politics

Legalize Prostitution

Its The Economy, Stupid

Illegal Immigration

Bush Is Outta Here!!!

The Bush Monkey

Twilights Last Gleaming




Contra Craig
    (Dr. William Lane Craig)


Contra Craig

   Responses to Contra Craig




Misc.

Editorials

   Responses To Editorials

Comments to JCnot4me- Pro + Con

One Picture is Worth...

Links- Other Websites Worth Checking Out




Books You Should Read   

Jehovah Unmasked cover
Jehovah Unmasked




Ha Ha Ha

Christian Election Poster

Flying Spaghetti Monster

Invitation from Rev. Jim Jones

Jokes

Pranks

Songs and Poems




 





 

 

E = MC2  Disproves Biblegod

Mark Smith   Sept. 2001

 

 

Biblegod Has Infinite Energy

Many Christians claim, without any evidence whatsoever, that Biblegod's energy and power is infinite. Their technical term for this unfounded claim is “omnipotence”. According to several major dictionaries...

 

OMNIPOTENT:

·        An agency or force of unlimited power.1

·        Having unlimited or universal power, authority, or force; all-powerful.2

·        Able in every respect and for every work; unlimited in ability; all-powerful; almighty; as, the Being that can create worlds must be omnipotent.3

·        Omnipotent adj : having unlimited power [syn: almighty, all-powerful]4

·        Having virtually unlimited authority or influence.5

·        Strictly said of God (or of a deity) or His attributes: Almighty or infinite in power.

 

You can see by the definitions that omnipotent means a source of energy that is all-powerful, a "force of unlimited power", and thus an energy source that is without limits; or as the last definition states, "infinite in power". But do many Christians believe their Biblegod HAS such awesome power? Indeed they do, as you can see for yourself below.

 

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William Lane Craig's website, "Leadership U", comments on the unlimited power of Biblegod. Author and winner of the Templeton Book Prize for theology in 1995 Roy Abraham Varghese describes Biblegod thusly:

He must then be spiritual (not limited by matter or space), eternal (not limited by time), immutable (not limited by change), omniscient (being the Creator of everything he knows all there is to know), omnipotent (to create, to make from nothing, is possible only for one with unlimited power), perfect (if He were to be imperfect in any respect His existence would be imperfect).

http://www.leaderu.com/truth/1truth29.html

A power that has no limits is infinite, in other words, an infinite energy source. Another noteworthy published author,  Senior Lecturer in Philosophy at the University of Leeds in England, George MacDonald Ross, has this to say about Biblegod in an online essay on Spinoza:

He then gives an equivalent apriori version. The ability to exist is a power or energy. The more reality or perfection the nature of a thing has, the more energy it has for existing. Therefore an absolutely infinite being has infinite energy for existing, and necessarily exists.

http://www.prs-ltsn.leeds.ac.uk/generic/screentexts/eth1expl.html

The amount of power and energy Ross credits Biblegod with is... "infinite energy". Other sources that claim infinite energy for Biblegod include the online Christian Seminary, which states that

First God is transcendent and omnipotent, this means that God is independent and above His creation.  God is not subject to the limitations of the physical world He has made.  God has infinite power and can make something exist by the force of His will.  http://www.ucmi.org/cim/seminary/chap2.htm 

Author of over 20 Christian books, Don Stuart writes:

The Bible makes it clear that God has infinite power. http://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/nbi/692.html 

And the online "Glossary of Religious Terms" defines Omnipotent as:

Omnipotence: The concept that God has infinite power; he is able to do anything that he wishes.  http://www.religioustolerance.org/gl_o.htm 

Another Christian, Wayne Blank, the author of the popular online "Daily Bible Study" also comments on Biblegod's infinite power:

 

Well, how did God create the universe from nothing, when we aren't able to do something like that? How does God raise the dead, if we can't? How is it that God has infinite power, while we don't? Because God is God. The Almighty is capable of doing anything that He wants to do - things that we are not able to do or understand - yet.  http://www.execulink.com/~wblank/longday.htm 

The Christian website "Christian Teen Corner" make this humble claim for their Biblegod:

 

Who are you crying out to? Are you praying to a little tiny God? Are you crying out to a God that is weak and limited in ability? NO! Our God is an Awsome God! He the Creator of the Universe. He's created thousands of stars bigger than our Sun! Our God has INFINITE POWER. He is Truly an AWESOME GOD !!!  http://www.wolfeborobible.com/challenge.html 

And last to be cited is good old Saint Augustine, via the author of the website "Medieval Philosophy" 

 

If, as Augustine supposed, god has infinite power and knowledge of every sort, then god can cause me to act in particular ways simply by willing that I do so.  http://www.philosophypages.com/hy/3b.htm 

It should be clear by now that the doctrine of omnipotence is common among Christians, and that Christians understand it thusly: Biblegod is not a deity of limited power or energy; rather, he has infinite power, infinite energy.

 

 

 

 E=MC2 

But is infinite energy even possible in our universe? According to Albert Einstein, no. One thing that Albert showed, and science has confirmed time and time again since then, is that anything that exists in the universe is either mass and/or energy. So, when a theologian claims his Biblegod "is a spirit" he is ruling out that Biblegod contains mass- that which you can see and feel, and they will tell you such if you ask. So having ruled out mass, all that is left is energy. How much energy do they claim? Infinite energy. But that does not exist, for two obvious reasons. First, if there were infinite energy, there would be no mass, for the existence of any mass whatsoever would mean there could be even more energy were that mass converted into such, per E=MC2. The fact that mass exists- any mass- proves beyond a doubt that the amount of energy in the universe has not yet become infinite. Secondly, if infinite, "without boundaries or limitations" energy did exist, we would not, for the entire universe would be like the insides of a microwave oven on high, to use a poor analogy. The amount of energy anywhere and everywhere in the universe would be so high that life, and even mass itself, would cease to exist. The entire universe would be vaporized in less than a millisecond. The very fact that you and I do exist proves that the amount of energy in the universe is not infinite, but has limitations.

 

Albert Einstein’s famous Special Theory of Relativity stated that Energy “E” is equal to Mass “M” times the Speed of Light “C” squared. Everything, 100% of all there is, is either energy, or mass. There is no other option. In fact, you may think of energy and mass as being two sides of the same coin.

 

  

E=MC2 Results In...

 

This theory has been proven time and again, Nagasaki and Hiroshima (of WWII fame) being just two examples. (As for those idiot Christians that claim “well, it’s only just a theory” let them sit at ground zero during the next test of a nuclear bomb.)  In Einstein’s equation, the Speed of Light (C) as measured in a vacuum is a constant- it stays the same. However, the other two items are variables- that is, they may vary in value. In the equation, as one variable goes up in value, so must the other.

 

Albert Einstein said of his theory that

 

"It followed from the special theory of relativity that mass and energy are both but different manifestations of the same thing -- a somewhat unfamiliar conception for the average mind. Furthermore, the equation E is equal to m c-squared, in which energy is put equal to mass, multiplied by the square of the velocity of light, showed that very small amounts of mass may be converted into a very large amount of energy and vice versa. The mass and energy were in fact equivalent, according to the formula mentioned before. This was demonstrated by Cockcroft and Walton in 1932, experimentally."7

 

 

And Discover magazine says of Albert's theory:

 

The study of general relativity has become something of an anachronism in physics. The theory is so deeply rooted in our science and culture that those who study it sometimes seem to have left physics for philosophy. In the universe as Einstein saw it, which he called the four-dimensional space-time, nothing was absolute. The geometry of space would act on matter, telling it how to move. In turn, the presence of matter or energy--the two are equivalent in an Einsteinian universe--would act on space, telling it how to curve. Gravity was no longer a mysterious force acting at a distance but the result of an object trying to travel in a straight line through space curved by the presence of material bodies.

Not only was general relativity conceptually beautiful, but it was checked and confirmed quickly. Among Einstein's predictions was that light from a distant star would appear to bend inward as it passed through the gravitational well of the sun, and therefore when Earth, the sun, and the star were lined up, the star's image would appear to have moved outward from its normal position. All that was needed for the experiment was a good camera and a solar eclipse, which would line up the three bodies while allowing the star to be seen. When nature provided the latter on May 29,1919, photographs confirmed that we lived in a curved four-dimensional space-time.

http://einstein.stanford.edu/gen_int/bibliography/disco1.htm 

 

 

 

According to Einstein, energy and mass are equivalent, while according to simple algebra, if you were to increase energy to infinity in the equation (as Christian dogma demands), mass would also have to become infinite. This would result in a universe that would be totally filled with either energy, energy/mass, or mass. This logical outcome of Christian dogma, however, is not what we see in the universe.

 

  

 

The Equation Analyzed 

E=MC2

Energy = Mass x C
(Speed of Light)
Squared
E Algebra:
In an Equation, whatever is to the left of the

 =

sign must stay equal to whatever's on the right.

M x 186,000 miles per second. This is a constant, that is, CAN'T CHANGE, no matter what. Squared

of

Biblegod:

*Infinite 

Energy

*(or so the Christians claim)

=

Since Energy (on the left) goes to infinite, Mass (on the right, and the only thing on the right that can change) must change to infinite also, for the equation to stay an equation.

M

IF Biblegod has infinite energy, THEN Mass changes to infinite as well, for the equation to stay equal, as this is the only thing that can change on the right hand side of the equation.

x C

This is locked in at 186,000, no matter how much "E" changes.

Squared

Conclusion:  No God

IF the Christians are correct about Biblegod having INFINITE POWER... then ENERGY and/or MASS go to infinity.

WHICH IS ABSURD AND IMPOSSIBLE, and which we DON'T see in our universe.

 

 

 In light of this fact, now consider the Christians’ claim that their Biblegod has infinite energy.

 

For this claim to be a possibility, you must increase the value of the left-hand side of the equation, the Energy portion, all the way to infinity, to account for the theorized infinite energy of Biblegod. Recalling basic algebra, in an equation, everything on both sides of an equal sign must stay equal. Thus, if you stick a Biblegod of infinite energy into the “E” Energy variable on the left, you must up the  “M” Mass variable (on the right) to infinity as well. Keeping an equation equal is a law of basic algebra, taught to seventh graders throughout our land. And as a consequence of seventh grade algebra, Christians are now left with the absurdity of a universe either filled to the brim with infinite energy, or infinite mass, or both, since both sides of the equation are infinite. In reality, we see neither. We instead see finite mass, and finite energy, in the universe, and as the universe is defined as all there is, there is no place "outside" the universe for a Biblegod with infinite energy or mass to hide. And even if there WERE an "outside the universe", anytime a being with infinite energy stuck even his little finger into "our" universe, our universe would then be filled with infinite energy and we'd all be dead.

 

 

Christian Theory -vs- Objective Reality

Does Christian theory jive with reality? No, it does not. Our universe started with The Big Bang- a finite, not infinite, ball of mass and energy. Therefore, everything that exists (i.e. the matter & energy) in the universe today must be finite, not infinite, even though the "nothingness" of the universe could very well go on forever. For everything that exists today- all of its building blocks, so to speak, were contained in this small finite ball in the beginning. Therefore, since all the mass & energy that has ever existed within the entire universe was at one time contained within a small "ball" of finite size and energy, it follows that there was not, is not, and can not ever be in our universe an infinite energy or mass.

 

What also doesn't fit- with reality- is a universe, every square inch of it, packed with energy so immensely powerful or matter so dense that space has ceased to exist, as it would be if the Christians were correct in their theory.  They postulate a being of infinite energy, and remember, energy and mass are just the two heads of the same coin. So this claim of an infinitely powerful being would require said being to totally fill up to the gills a finite universe with his mass and/or energy, and if the universe itself is infinite, this being would always be about one gnat hair shy of filling that up. I admit, arguing about an infinite Biblegod existing in an infinite universe makes as much sense as the proverbial argument of how many angels can fit on the head of a pin. It's all NONSENSE and FAIRY TALES to start with, so please forgive me if an infinite god in an infinite universe doesn't make sense. For the sake of the argument, grant the Christians this, then go from there.

 

And from there we end up with infinite energy. Picture the hottest blowtorch imaginable; now picture it enveloped within the exhaust plume of an F-15 jet; now picture both the torch and the jet at the center of the sun- and THAT is not even NEAR how hot and full of energy the very space you're now sitting in would be WERE the Christians right in their fairy tales. What we DO see in reality are pockets of higher and lower energy, some energy hot enough to melt the Earth, other energy extremely low in level. We do NOT see infinite energy EVERYWHERE in the Universe.

 

As for matter, we see pockets of very dense matter such as in Black Holes, where one teaspoon of matter would weigh millions of tons, and we also see areas that are almost perfect vacuums, such as the 6 inches between Jerry Falwell's ears. What we DON'T see is infinite mass in our finite universe.

 

In fact, out very existence disproves the Christian claim of a god of infinite power, for we would not be able to exist in such a universe. We would either be fried by infinite energy, or crushed by infinite mass, but we are neither. Our existence and Einstein's theory thus disproves a Biblegod of infinite power, leaving only the possibility of a deity of limited power and abilities- maybe the god of George Carlin fame who is so strong he can throw a car over a high bush. Or maybe a god who would get tired and need a nap after six days of creation. 

 

Of course, Christians being the imaginative people that they are, some Christians have claimed that Biblegod doesn't live in our universe- he has his own "way over yonder". Like many Christian claims, not one iota of evidence is presented to back up this claim of a "spiritual" parallel universe. Not one telescopic observation nor law of physics has demanded this be theorized to explain previously unexplainable phenomena. The only thing making such a universe a necessity is the Christian need to hide away their Biblegod in a location where he is safe from ever being disproved by us evil Atheists, as they claim this "transcendental universe" is totally beyond our ability to sense. For an essay of mine on this fictional La La land of Fundy Christians, see my article:  Transcendental La La Land in which I deal more specifically about this topic.

 

But why should the Christians be the only ones having all the fun of make-believe universes?  Based upon the exact same evidence that the Christians have for THEIR parallel universe (home of Biblegod!), I would like to state the discovery that there is a SECOND universe hidden safely away from skeptical Christians. It's called "Ath-Land" and the great god Ath (glory to his name!) lives there. Ath is a more powerful god than Seventh, but less so than the even greater god Ninth.  When we Atheists die we will all go to Ath-Land and drive golden Cadillac's. Or is is golden Chevy's??? I'm not certain.

 

But one thing IS for certain- all claims of omnipotent gods were forever destroyed when Einstein's theory was emphatically proven at the destruction of Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

 

 

E=MC2 Disproves Biblegod

Albert Einstein:     "The word 'god' is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive, legends, which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation, no matter how subtle, can for me change this."  (Albert Einstein, in a recently discovered letter to philosopher Eric Gutkind, dated Jan. 3, 1954)

 

 

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1)    Webster’s Seventh New Collegiate Dictionary, Merriam Company, Springfield, Mass 1965.

 

2)   The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.

 

3)   Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc 

 

4)   WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University

 

5)   Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, 2001

 

6)   The Compact Edition Of The Oxford English Dictionary, Complete Text Reproduced Micrographically, Volume I A-O, Oxford University Press

 

7) From the soundtrack of the film, Atomic Physics, © J. Arthur Rank Organization, Ltd., 1948

 

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